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	<title>Comments on: Citation Stylings</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.geekstudies.org/2009/06/citation-stylings/comment-page-1#comment-2106</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s interesting that the individual comic is copyrighted to them, but the site itself is copyrighted to penny arcade, inc. 

Ultimately, I think your Penny Arcade example shows that you are 1. thinking about how to properly cite sources with regard to how people use the internet and 2. providing a level of verfication/proof to people who might be reading your thesis.  I think this is the important thing: That you are trying to properly cite them and you&#039;re being transparent about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that the individual comic is copyrighted to them, but the site itself is copyrighted to penny arcade, inc. </p>
<p>Ultimately, I think your Penny Arcade example shows that you are 1. thinking about how to properly cite sources with regard to how people use the internet and 2. providing a level of verfication/proof to people who might be reading your thesis.  I think this is the important thing: That you are trying to properly cite them and you&#8217;re being transparent about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Tocci</title>
		<link>http://www.geekstudies.org/2009/06/citation-stylings/comment-page-1#comment-2101</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Tocci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, this is the thing I mentioned only in passing in the post, and said I wouldn&#039;t even get into it. But you have drawn me out!

Actually, I&#039;m citing the creators of Penny Arcade as &quot;Krahulik &amp; Holkins&quot; because those are the only names printed on the comic itself, or even the page where the comic appears. See vertically printed text on the right—&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;©2004 Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins&quot;&lt;/a&gt;—hence the decision to print the names out of alphabetical order, as well. Admittedly, this does make things confusing when citing their &quot;news posts&quot; elsewhere, which are written under their pseudonyms. Considering that they have widely known real names printed on their other work (under which copyrights are attributed), I have simply used their real names whenever citing them.

Mind you, I have whole other sets of rules for citing things from people who I just happen to meet at cons and then follow up with online, which is more geared toward protecting their anonymity. I think the creators of Penny Arcade (and a handful of other &quot;internet famous&quot; people) constitute special cases with regard to the use of pseudonyms, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, this is the thing I mentioned only in passing in the post, and said I wouldn&#8217;t even get into it. But you have drawn me out!</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m citing the creators of Penny Arcade as &#8220;Krahulik &#038; Holkins&#8221; because those are the only names printed on the comic itself, or even the page where the comic appears. See vertically printed text on the right—<a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;©2004 Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins&#8221;</a>—hence the decision to print the names out of alphabetical order, as well. Admittedly, this does make things confusing when citing their &#8220;news posts&#8221; elsewhere, which are written under their pseudonyms. Considering that they have widely known real names printed on their other work (under which copyrights are attributed), I have simply used their real names whenever citing them.</p>
<p>Mind you, I have whole other sets of rules for citing things from people who I just happen to meet at cons and then follow up with online, which is more geared toward protecting their anonymity. I think the creators of Penny Arcade (and a handful of other &#8220;internet famous&#8221; people) constitute special cases with regard to the use of pseudonyms, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.geekstudies.org/2009/06/citation-stylings/comment-page-1#comment-2100</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason, back in my own dark ages working in academic publishing, I can tell you that we&#039;d always go with what would make it easier for someone to verify that you haven&#039;t made all this stuff up (Not that I&#039;m suggesting you would). 

That said, I&#039;d probably in the works cited page listed Krahulik and Holkins writing as Gabe and Tycho. Or conversely just cite them as Gabe and Tycho with a note that their real names are Krahulik and Holkins. 

I&#039;d cite a pseudonym with a first and last name just like the twain article. 

It is interesting that you&#039;re (hopefully) happily grabbling with the cutting edge of academic citations.  And I&#039;m glad you are grabbling with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason, back in my own dark ages working in academic publishing, I can tell you that we&#8217;d always go with what would make it easier for someone to verify that you haven&#8217;t made all this stuff up (Not that I&#8217;m suggesting you would). </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d probably in the works cited page listed Krahulik and Holkins writing as Gabe and Tycho. Or conversely just cite them as Gabe and Tycho with a note that their real names are Krahulik and Holkins. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d cite a pseudonym with a first and last name just like the twain article. </p>
<p>It is interesting that you&#8217;re (hopefully) happily grabbling with the cutting edge of academic citations.  And I&#8217;m glad you are grabbling with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Tocci</title>
		<link>http://www.geekstudies.org/2009/06/citation-stylings/comment-page-1#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Tocci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t run it by my committee, but none of them (that I&#039;m aware of) have done a project quite like this. I haven&#039;t found anything from APA that explicitly addresses this, either. It&#039;s not that pressing right this instant, but I thought it might be interesting enough to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t run it by my committee, but none of them (that I&#8217;m aware of) have done a project quite like this. I haven&#8217;t found anything from APA that explicitly addresses this, either. It&#8217;s not that pressing right this instant, but I thought it might be interesting enough to share.</p>
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		<title>By: zandperl</title>
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		<dc:creator>zandperl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it there&#039;s no established standard?  What do your advisor and other faculty think?  Since it&#039;s a style issue, is there anyone at the APA you could contact and actually ask about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it there&#8217;s no established standard?  What do your advisor and other faculty think?  Since it&#8217;s a style issue, is there anyone at the APA you could contact and actually ask about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m just going with citing as a screen name for consistency with the other online sources I’m using in cases when no real name is given on the work itself. &quot;

Seems to be the way to go. You&#039;d cite &quot;Twain&quot; and not &quot;Clemens,&quot; e.g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m just going with citing as a screen name for consistency with the other online sources I’m using in cases when no real name is given on the work itself. &#8221;</p>
<p>Seems to be the way to go. You&#8217;d cite &#8220;Twain&#8221; and not &#8220;Clemens,&#8221; e.g.</p>
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